KDEEdu/Artikulate/Meetings

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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, 2013 July 27th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • translations
    • recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda
      • added recordings for 2 French units (male speaker) and about 8 units for Polish (female speaker)
      • translated unit Tourism into French
      • Created language course progress reports for polish and french in community wiki
      • worked a bit more on menu (still not fully ready)
    • Oindrila
      • was working on the Exclude Button and made a public branch for the purpose
      • added the 'excludedPhrases' top-level element to course.xsd
      • currently working on the skeleton and course classes
      • translated a unit to Bengali and made a few recordings (yet to commit)
      • added this page to the userbase wiki: http://userbase.kde.org/Artikulate/Beginning
    • Andreas
      • progress in resource manager refactoring (everything ported to resource based infrastructure; missing is the planned massive simplifications of ResourceManager that come along with the new structure)
      • mails with Tom (English native speaker) and Quentin (French native speaker), Tom spotted some problems/nice features
  2. course data progress
    • Magda created overview tables for French and Polish at https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/CourseData
    • we will add similar ones for all other language we are currently working on
    • Quentin just finished translating two additional French units and recorded one
    • Dimitris finished translating another Unit into Greek
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • Andreas plans to finish the ResourceManager refactoring by tomorrow
    • Oindrila plans to finish the Exclude Phrases button by Thursday
    • Magda is nearly done with the menu branch
    • we will start preparing the release around Friday
    • Magda will start work on font settings tomorrow
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Monday, 2013 July 19th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • translations
    • recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • Magda working on python script to use google translate to put phrases automatically in Artikulate as pre-translation
    • Magda will then look at French translations
    • Oini translated two more units, will be adding them to Artikulate soon
    • Andreas will ask for French contributors in his next blog post
    • we will point new contributors to IRC #kde-artikulate and to [email protected]
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • remaining features for next release
      1. the menu bar
      2. the resource manager refactoring
      3. Exclude Phrase button
    • all features shall be ready next weekend
    • hopefully next meeting we can decide to merge all the work, create a release branch, and then tell i18n people that we are in string freeze
  4. progress user documentation
    • Oini will remove the 'Under Construction' tag from Introduction and start with the next sub-page then
  5. miscellaneous
    • Edu sprint is in planning
    • /!\ next week meeting at Tuesday: 6pm UTC

Monday, 2013 July 12th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • translations
    • recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda
      • was working on some UI issues: progress bar works well now, added a Get new course button that connects to GHNS dialog and worked on disinguishing native speaker recording from user recording
    • Oindrila:
      • worked on the userbase wiki
      • looked into the qml code of the editor and tried to implement a 'dismiss' button
    • Andreas:
      • about 80% done with the porting to a modular framework that allows a QtGStreamer sound backend
  2. course data progress
    • Bengali: 4 units left to translate, female recordings for all translated units, for male recordings waiting for new headset (currently 442 recordings)
    • Polish: 600 phrases recorded
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • clickable progress bar nearly ready to merge
    • update of sound control actions in progress (discussed proposals)
    • QtGStreamer backend hopefully can be merged at the end of this week
    • Oindrila starts to implement an "exclude from course" button to exclude translation of skeleton phrases
    • Magda will after this look at adding a menu
  4. progress user documentation
    • wiki pages at userbase are created
    • Oindrila will start adding text
    • first three section are stable enough to write text
  5. miscellaneous
    • after Magda's UI changes, the new QtGStreamer backend are merged and resource manager is updated to only show languages for courses that are installed, we will do another release (in about ~2-3 weeks)

Monday, 2013 July 5th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • translations
    • recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • GHNS implementation (ready to merge?)
    • training mode
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Andreas
      • we moved to new IRC channel #kde-artikulate (thanks to Kenny and the freenode admins!)
      • poked Jeremy and he fixed a KNS Bug for us :)
    • Magda
      • GHNS is finished now and working well
      • working on the UI: so far learnt a bit of QML and how to use C++ within it and manged to do first small change: making the status bar clickable
    • Oindrila
      • a lot of Bengali recordings
      • wrote blog post to ask for help in recording US English phrases and we found interested people!
      • created a starting page for the user documentation
    • all students passed the midterms \o/
  2. course data progress
    • another release in approx. 2 weeks and try to convince some of the very popular distros to ship it
    • problems with compiling against QtMultimedia (especially on ArchLinux and OpenSuse -> Andreas plans to add an optional QtGStreamer backend)
    • a lot of progress in Bengali
    • we need some stats in the course editor that gives info about translating/recording status of courses
    • call for recordings/translations for French and Spanish next week after we have QtGStreamer backend
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • download_dialog branch (i.e. GHNS) will be merged into master
    • Magda will work on better positioning of buttons -> will issue review request and request review by usability people
    • Andreas working on (1) QtGStreamer backend, (2) resource manager rewrite
    • further open todos: add a menu bar (like in typical programs), 6-box-algorithm learning mode for selecting the next phrase, add big button "Get New Courses" at the starting page
  4. progress user documentation
    • scheduled for next week, need input from Oindrila first
    • a short mail about current status and plans would be awesome
  5. miscellaneous
    • we need a logo
    • Inge's basic vocabulary course for Parley (edu-list) looks great!

Monday, 2013 July 29th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • translations
    • recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • GHNS implementation
  4. progress user documentation
  5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Oindrila, Magda, samikshan

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Oini:
      1. recording problem fixed
      2. outline for user documentation: https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/Todo#Proposal_for_User_Documentation
      3. created script to get all the phrases from a course and preprocess translation
    • Konki:
      1. was working on GHNS implementation for courses distribution: it works ok, but not perfectly yet
    •  Andreas
      1. the KDE on Windows guys are getting ready to make Artikulate usable on Windows
      2. Dimitris sent a new heap of Greek recordings \o/
    • samikshan says hello!
  2. course data progress
    • this week Bengali will probably get completed
    • Greek makes great progress
    • we will write more calls for "standard foreign learning languages", first is American English (Oindrila will write blog post)
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • GHNS implementation nearly working: noticed that sometimes deleting/uninstalling the course does not work
    • implementation similar to KLettres
    • we will look into the question how to integrate GHNS better into our interface
  4. progress user documentation
    • Oini presents her plan
    • everybody likes the plan
    • Oini will create the wiki pages and ping us when she needs any help/input/texts/review
  5. miscellaneous
    • nothing misc

Tuesday, 2013 July 23rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • Translations
    • Recordings
  3. course editor & trainer progress
  4. progress user documentation
  5. contributor recruiting
  6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila, Myriam

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda
      • was working on python script that gets files from artikulate-data repository and it is almost finished (some small changes needed)
      • lots of research about GHNS
    • Oindrila:
      • internet problems, working on fixing recording
    • Andreas
      • two BoFs about Personas for Langauge Learning and contributing to Artikulate
      • recruited several helpers: Italian, American English, (probably Spanish, need some more pokes), Greek (though Dimitris appeared by himself!)
      • reimplemented the training mode
      • changed course data loading to loading on demand (resource-manager will be re-factored in the not so far future...)
      • put the course files that Magda's script creates to files.kde.org/edu/artikulate
  2. course data progress
    • same state as last week
    • plus two new units in Greek
  3. course editor & trainer progress
    • everybody: please test!
    • next week, also involve the usability people for trainer UI
  4. progress user documentation
    • will discuss it next week
  5. contributor recruiting
    • we will post blogs and specifically ask for some languages
    • we already heard from several people that they want to help
  6. miscellaneous

Monday, 2013 July 15st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • Skeleton work
    • Translations
  3. course editor progress
  4. progress contributor documentation
  5. Akademy contributor recruiting
  6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila

  1. Reports
    • Oindrila:
      • finished all units
      • created Hindi Course
      • Bengali Course will be done by this week
    • Magda
      • Added recording for female polish speaker for 8 units and for french male speaker for 2 units
      • Translated 8 units into french
      • added screenshots to current contributor manual
    • Andreas
      • created release
  2. course data progress
    • basic course skeleton: done
    • good progress
    • Andreas will add working statistics to course editor (number of missing recordings...)
  3. Course editor progress
    • Andreas has some plans...
      1. allow to change the backend (Qt Multimedia, what is currently used, is not available everywhere)
      2. introduce a backend that can also easily be built in Windows (Simon-lib)
      3. by default change to Simon-lib which has an awesome set of internal tools that make recordings "better" (automatic noise removal, normalization...)
      4. reenable the training mode the next weekend
    • Andreas creates sketch for GHNS implementation, compiles a list of starting points for Magda
  4. Contributor Documentation
    • Contributor documentation: done
    • next week: talk about user documentation
    • Oini drafts structure for user documentation
  5. Contributor Recruiting
    • slides are done
    • let's see how many people will show up
  6. Misc
    • nothing

Monday, 2013 July 8st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • Skeleton work
    • Translations
  3. course editor progress
  4. progress contributor documentation
  5. Akademy contributor recruiting
  6. miscellaneous

Notes

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda:
      • nearly finished translating basic skeleton into Polish (one unit left)
      • added some recording for male polish speaker (Time and Dates, Alphabet, Numbers, Weather, Countries and cultures, Sport and Tourism
      • translated two units into French (Numbers and Alphabet)
      • filled in gaps in the contributor manual and general cleaning
    • Oindrila:
      • skeleton units: only "at a party" remains undone
      • six units translated into Bengali
    • Andreas:
      • several editor fixes
  2. course data progress
    • schedule says, we should be done this week
    • only two units remain
    • adjusted schedules a little bit
    • Andreas will create overview table about current translation state
  3. course editor progress
    • release targetted to Thursday/Friday
    • Andreas will create blog post after release
  4. progress contributor documentation
    • nearly finished \o/
    • put skeleton creation by UI button as Wishlist bug to bugs.k.o and point documenation to it
    • else contributor documentation should be done
    • Magda will add screenshots
    • everybody proof reading please!
  5. Akademy contributor recruiting
    • Andreas prepares slides and sends them around this week
    • everybody blogs :)
  6. miscellaneous
    • Andreas will add "dismiss" button for phrases (skeleton phrases that explicitly are not part of a unit)

Monday, 2013 July 1st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. course data progress
    • Skeleton work
    • Translations
  3. editor progress
  4. progress contributor documentation
  5. Akademy contributor recruiting
  6. tasks until next meeting
  7. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magda, Mamarok, (Oindrila excused)

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda:
      • added Polish phonology and created a Polish and French course
      • translated some units into Polish: Weather, Sport, Countries and Cultures,Toursim and Family
      • worked on the contributor manual: so now almost all subsections have some information
    • Andreas:
      • scheduled some BoFs for Akademy: general KDE Edu meeting, Persona discussion for language learning programs, Artikulate contributor recruiting
      • fixed several small bugs at Artikulate
      • did some small UI cleanup at the course editor
      • figured out that we already can have different phrase types in skeleton and course
    • Oindrila:
      • finished several courses
  2. course data progress
    • Skeleton work
      • slightly ahead of schedule
    • Translations
      • about 5 units already translated into Polish
      • Magda will soon start making recordings
  3. editor progress
    • next meeting: list of remaining blockers for a contributor release
  4. progress contributor documentation
    • a lot of progress
    • everybody: please review the texts
  5. Akademy contributor recruiting
    • BoF scheduled
    • Andreas will discuss with Oindrila how to plan that hour
    • Andreas will prepare release of contributor preview of Artikulate
  6. miscellaneous
    • high priority is contributor manual
    • we need a logo!

Monday, 2013 Juni 24th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. progress in skeleton work
  3. progress contributor documentation
  4. courses:
    1. translations
    2. gathering recordings strategy
  5. www.flossie.org
  6. Akademy contributor recruiting
  7. Trainer UI
  8. tasks until next meeting
  9. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

  1. Task Review/Reports
    • Magda:
      • added three more units: Entertainment, At the Doctors and At the supermarket
      • edited the techbase to create a manual incorporating the existing instruction into it
    • Andreas:
      • fixed open file handlers bug
      • started work at recording indicator
    • Oindrila:
      • Lydia replied saying that she will let her know more about the Student Programs Presentation
  2. progress in skeleton work
    • Magda finished all her units
    • Oindrila will add her units the next days
  3. progress contributor documentation
    • already quite good
    • discussed minor improvements
  4. courses: translations & gathering recordings strategy
    • Magda started with translating to Polish and French
    • we must respect that if a phrase is a word in one language, in another it can be an expression/sentence: Andreas will make changes to allow different set values
    • we should not aim to make word-by-word translations but try to give each phrase a most similar meaning in the translated language
    • we should translate the skeletons trying to keep similar structure, but if not we are able to change words into phrases, maybe phrases to sentences, etc.
    • try to have same amount of male as of female recordings
    • rule of thumb: speaker records every second sound
  5. www.flossie.org
    • Oindrila will prepare proposal
  6. Akademy contributor recruiting
    • skip, since no BoF call out yet
  7. Trainer UI
    • can we allow the specific choice of speakers for a training? (Andreas checks what would be necessary to implement that)
  8. Misc
    • Andreas will make changes to allow different phrase type in skeleton and course

Monday, 2013 Juni 17th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. progress in skeleton work
  3. progress contributor documentation
  4. Akademy contributor recruiting
  5. Trainer UI mockups
  6. tasks until next meeting
  7. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
    • Magda:
      • new units added to course skeleton: Weather, Time and Dates and Clothing
      • skeleton for contributor manual created
    • Oindrila: added descriptions to the CourseData wiki
      • Artikulate/Events page created
      • mailed Jeff and Lydia about the Student Programs Presentations and the Bof
      • created Hindi Phonology
    • Andreas: created Trainer UI Mockup
  2. progress in skeleton work
    • progress looks good, everything still as predicted by the schedule :)
  3. progress contributor documentation
    • Magda will start merging existing documentation to the new structure
    • we will talk next week about distributing documentation tasks
  4. Akademy contributor recruiting
    • we want to have a BoF at the Akademy
    • we should get in touch with local KDE communities (Spain, France)
    • discussion point for BoF is how to handle different accents
    • the [Marble/VoiceOfMarble Voice of Marble] project could give interesting ideas
  5. Trainer UI mockups
    • positively received
    • Andreas will sketch implementation plan for this until next meeting
  6. tasks until next meeting
    • only the ones from above
  7. miscellaneous
    • none

Monday, 2013 June 10rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. review tasks from last week/reports
  2. progress in skeleton work
  3. discuss structure for contributor documentation
  4. plans for Akademy contributor recruiting
  5. tasks until next meeting
  6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

  1. Reports
    • Magda:
      • added blog to planetKDE
      • created developer account
      • added 4 new units: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries and cultures
      • added recordings for British English
      • drafted plan for contributor handbook
    • Oindrila
      • working on Hindi phonology
      • added blog to planetKDE
    • Course overview has new column
    • work at course editor
  2. Course Skeleton Progress
    • progress is good!
    • Newly finished: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries
    • we update the course planning page with unit descriptions
  3. Contributor Documentation
    • Magda presents concept (now at wiki)
    • contributor documentation will be at techbase
    • we will start creating stub pages for the main topics
    • major part must be finished until Akademy
  4. Akademy Event
    • Oindrila will ask Jeff about lightning talks for GSoC students
    • we will organize a BoF to talk about how to contribute courses
    • course editor, basic course skeleton and contributor documentation must be finished (and tested) for this
  5. ToDos
    • all: add unit descriptions to planning page
    • Oindrila: add Akademy event concept to wiki
    • Magda: create pages for contributor documenation
    • Andreas: create mockup for new traning screen
  6. Misc
    • nothing

Monday, 2013 June 3rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

  1. discuss proposed unit list
  2. project responsibilities for OPW/GSoC 2013
  3. milestones for OPW/GSoC 2013
  4. promotion (subscribe to planet.kde.org, etc.)
  5. workflows/technical stuff:
    • usage of reviewboard
    • creating developer accounts
  6. tasks until next meeting

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

  1. Units
    • overall look OK
    • "Emergency" unit will cover natural calamity, theft, accident (but not medical)
    • "Proverbs" will not be included in basic course skeleton, but moved to list of "interesting topics" (reason: proverbs differ too much even for simliar languages)
    • Oindrila will add column "Descriptions" to course list and we all will add some details what the units will be about
  2. Coordination Responsibilities
    • Learner UI & Feedback mechanisms: Oindrila
    • Course Distribution & Course Integrity Checks: Magdalena
    • Languages:
      • Bengali (Oindrila)
      • Hindi (Oindrila)
      • French (Magdalena)
      • Polish (Magdalena)
      • American English (Andreas)
    • Documentation
      • Contributor Part: Magdalena
      • End User/Learner: Oindrila
  3. Milestones
    • look OK
    • will discuss again next week and check if time points seem reasonable
  4. Organization
    • Oindrila and Magdalena will register blogs at planet.kde.org
    • Magdalena will request KDE contributor account
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