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KDE 4.1 is scheduled for release at the end of July 2008. This is a significant milestone for the KDE 4 series and for KDE in general, but as an early  
KDE 4.1 was released at the end of July 2008. This is a significant milestone for the KDE 4 series and for KDE in general, but as an early  
release in the KDE 4 cycle, it does have some known issues which will not be fixed in KDE 4.1. Huge progress has been made in KDE 4.1 which is listed in the [[Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan|KDE 4.1 Feature Plan]].
release in the KDE 4 cycle, it does have some known issues which will not be fixed in KDE 4.1. Huge progress has been made in KDE 4.1 which is listed in the [[Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan|KDE 4.1 Feature Plan]].


Some of the more obvious issues are listed below. If these issues are important to you, you should stay with KDE 3.5 or KDE 4.0 until KDE 4.2 when most of these issues are scheduled to be resolved.
Some of the more obvious issues are listed below. If these issues are important to you, you should stay with KDE 3.5 (KDE 3.5.10 was released in [[Schedules/KDE_3.5_Release_Schedule#August_2008:_Expected_release_date_of_KDE_3.5.10|August 2008]]) until KDE 4.2 is released (scheduled for release in [[Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule|January 2009]]) when most of these issues are scheduled to be resolved.


It is possible that distributions will work around some of these issues before distributing to users. KDE 4.2 is currently scheduled for release
It is possible that distributions will work around some of these issues before distributing to users.
in February 2009.
 
== Graphics Performance ==
 
Users of NVidia cards with the binary driver provided by NVidia might suffer from performance problems in window switching and resizing. A fixed NVidia driver has been [http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html released.]


== The Desktop ==
== The Desktop ==
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=== FolderView ===
=== FolderView ===


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FolderView is a new technology on the KDE 4 desktop which allows more than one collection of icons on your "desktop" and discourages using it as
FolderView is a new technology on the KDE 4 desktop which allows more than one collection of icons on your "desktop".  However, it can still be configured to behave much like KDE 3 did. See [http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/06/14/folderview-is-the-awesome/ this blog entry by Lydia Pintscher] for some more information on FolderView.
dumping ground for miscellaneous files.  However, it can still be configured to behave just like KDE 3 did. See [http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/06/14/folderview-is-the-awesome/ this blog entry by Lydia Pintscher] for some more information on FolderView.


The following issues are known and are scheduled to be resolved in KDE 4.2 next February:
The following issues are known and are scheduled to be resolved in KDE 4.2:
* Icons do not need to be in a grid. You can drag them to any point within the FolderView. However, the location you leave them in is not saved, so they will be in a grid again the next time you start the desktop.
* Icons do not need to be in a grid: you can drag them to any point within the FolderView. However, the location you leave them in is not saved, so they will be in a grid again the next time you start the desktop.
* You can have a full screen "desktop with icons", but if you do, you can not have a desktop background. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYinDOKbE8
* You can have a full screen "desktop with icons", but if you do, you can not have a desktop background. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYinDOKbE8
* You can have a desktop background, but then you must use the FolderView in regular, not entire screen mode (as shown in Lydia's blog above).
* You can have a desktop background, but then you must use the FolderView in regular, not entire screen mode (as shown in Lydia's blog above).


=== Panels and workspaces ===
=== Panels and workspaces ===
Some panel issues can be resolved before KDE 4.2. Because of the modular design of Plasma, a new panel could be quite easily written with autohide functionality. This would likely be written by a distribution team or a developer on kde-apps.org.


* Autohiding of panels is not yet configurable.
* Autohiding of panels is not yet configurable.
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* The Mac-style menu bar is not available.
* The Mac-style menu bar is not available.


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* For a number of applications, e.g. Konsole, sessions do not get restored, as you're used to from KDE 3.5
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* Even though the System Settings module offers you an option to start your day with a Manually Saved Session, there's no option yet in the menu to actually save one.  The functionality is available via D-Bus though and some distributions already include patches to fix this.  See [http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155341 bug 155341] for details.
* For a number of applications, e.g. Konsole, sessions do not get restored.


== Applications ==
== Applications ==
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Some KDE 3 applications have not yet been ported to KDE 4. Most distributions still package KDE 3 versions of these applications with their KDE 4 desktop. Some notable applications which will not be included in KDE 4.1 are listed below:
Some KDE 3 applications have not yet been ported to KDE 4. Most distributions still package KDE 3 versions of these applications with their KDE 4 desktop. Some notable applications which will not be included in KDE 4.1 are listed below:


* KOffice has a different release schedule than KDE 4. KOffice 2.0 will likely be released late in 2008.  [http://www.koffice.org/news.php#itemKOffice20alpha9released Alpha 9] has been released with binaries for all three major platforms.  The developers are looking for volunteers to help put together screenshots for [http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3545 visual changelogs].
'''Projects with a different release schedule than KDE4.'''
* Amarok has a different release schedule than KDE 4. The Amarok team is currently aiming for a first release in October 2008 for the 2.0 series. Amarok does have their first Alpha release out entitled [http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/523 Malina]. Nightly builds are available through [http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon Project Neon].
 
* Konversation has a different release schedule than KDE 4. Konversation 2.0 does not yet have a release schedule.
Project (Current Version - Final Release Date)
* digiKam has a different release schedule than KDE 4.  They have a [http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/356 beta release] of the KDE 4 port, with many new features.
* [http://www.digikam.org/ digiKam] ([http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/416 Beta 7] - Early 2009)
* k3b has a different release schedule than KDE 4.  An alpha release of 1.1 (the KDE 4 port) is forthcoming, but not yet released.
[http://www.digikam.org/drupal/about/releaseplan Digikam 0.10.0 Release Plan]
* [http://kaffeine.kde.org/ Kaffeine] has a different release schedule than KDE 4. The KDE 4 port does not yet have a release schedule.
 
* Several [http://games.kde.org/ KDE games] do not have a KDE 4 port yet. Among these are kasteroids, kfouleggs, ksirtet.
* [http://www.krusader.org Krusader 2.0] ([http://www.krusader.org/text.php?t=krusader-2.0.0-beta2.notes Beta 2] - Unknown)
* [http://www.krusader.org Krusader] has a different release schedule than KDE 4. There is a [http://krusader.org/down.php#development beta release] available.
Krusader is an advanced twin panel (commander style) file manager.
 
* [http://www.koffice.org/ KOffice 2.0] ([http://www.koffice.org/news.php#itemKOffice20beta4released Beta 4] - Spring 2009)
Binaries are available for all three major platforms.  The developers are looking for volunteers to help put together screenshots for [http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3545 visual changelogs].
 
* [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok 2.0] ([http://amarok.kde.org/de/node/595 2.0 Released - December 2008])
Amarok 2.0 was released on 10 December 2008.
 
* [http://k3b.plainblack.com/ k3b 1.1] (Pre-Alpha - Unknown)
An alpha release of 1.1 (the KDE 4 port) is forthcoming, but not yet released.
 
* [http://kaffeine.kde.org/ Kaffeine] (Pre-Alpha - Unknown)
The KDE4 port is under way but requires major rewriting to support Phonon and other new features. No releases scheduled at this time.
 
* [http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/ KPlayer 0.7] (Released January 11 2008)
KPlayer 0.7 is the KDE4 port of KPlayer that was released on the same day as KDE 4.0. KPlayer 0.7.1 is planned for fall 2008 and will include a KDE4 port of its multimedia library which still used KDE3 compatibility layer in version 0.7.0.
 
* [http://basket.kde.org/ Basket] (1.0.3.1 (KDE3) - Released June 30 2008)
The KDE4 port of Basket is currently in a pre-alpha state.
 
* [http://konversation.kde.org/ Konversation 2.0] (Pre-Alpha - Unknown)
The KDE4 port will not be released to sometime after version 1.1, which will be the last KDE3 release.
 
*There are also several [http://games.kde.org/ KDE games] that do not have a KDE 4 port yet. Among these are kasteroids, kfouleggs.
 
* [http://www.kdevelop.org/ KDevelop 4.0] (Pre-Alpha - Unknown)
An alpha release of 4.0 (a rewritten from scratch version)  [http://www.kdevelop.org/mediawiki/index.php/KDevelop_4/KDev3_KDev4_comparison_table is forthcoming], but not yet released. Normal users should continue to use the [http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.5/download.html stable KDevelop 3.5.2] version for the time being.


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Latest revision as of 18:51, 8 March 2016

KDE 4.1 was released at the end of July 2008. This is a significant milestone for the KDE 4 series and for KDE in general, but as an early release in the KDE 4 cycle, it does have some known issues which will not be fixed in KDE 4.1. Huge progress has been made in KDE 4.1 which is listed in the KDE 4.1 Feature Plan.

Some of the more obvious issues are listed below. If these issues are important to you, you should stay with KDE 3.5 (KDE 3.5.10 was released in August 2008) until KDE 4.2 is released (scheduled for release in January 2009) when most of these issues are scheduled to be resolved.

It is possible that distributions will work around some of these issues before distributing to users.

Graphics Performance

Users of NVidia cards with the binary driver provided by NVidia might suffer from performance problems in window switching and resizing. A fixed NVidia driver has been released.

The Desktop

The desktop in KDE 4.1 will mark the start of some significant user interface changes. This is a step away from the way the KDE 3 desktop was designed, but everything possible on your KDE 3.5.9 desktop will also be possible on your KDE 4 desktop. For KDE 4.1, however, some features are not yet complete, but should be ready for KDE 4.2.

FolderView

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FolderView is a new technology on the KDE 4 desktop which allows more than one collection of icons on your "desktop". However, it can still be configured to behave much like KDE 3 did. See this blog entry by Lydia Pintscher for some more information on FolderView.

The following issues are known and are scheduled to be resolved in KDE 4.2:

  • Icons do not need to be in a grid: you can drag them to any point within the FolderView. However, the location you leave them in is not saved, so they will be in a grid again the next time you start the desktop.
  • You can have a full screen "desktop with icons", but if you do, you can not have a desktop background. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYinDOKbE8
  • You can have a desktop background, but then you must use the FolderView in regular, not entire screen mode (as shown in Lydia's blog above).

Panels and workspaces

Some panel issues can be resolved before KDE 4.2. Because of the modular design of Plasma, a new panel could be quite easily written with autohide functionality. This would likely be written by a distribution team or a developer on kde-apps.org.

  • Autohiding of panels is not yet configurable.
  • It is not possible to set different desktop wallpapers for different virtual desktops.
  • The Mac-style menu bar is not available.

Session management

Session management is not fully implemented yet, at least not as you're used to from KDE 3.5. Some of these features might get implemented in a 4.1.x release.

  • Even though the System Settings module offers you an option to start your day with a Manually Saved Session, there's no option yet in the menu to actually save one. The functionality is available via D-Bus though and some distributions already include patches to fix this. See bug 155341 for details.
  • For a number of applications, e.g. Konsole, sessions do not get restored.

Applications

New and missing applications

Some KDE 3 applications have not yet been ported to KDE 4. Most distributions still package KDE 3 versions of these applications with their KDE 4 desktop. Some notable applications which will not be included in KDE 4.1 are listed below:

Projects with a different release schedule than KDE4.

Project (Current Version - Final Release Date)

Digikam 0.10.0 Release Plan

Krusader is an advanced twin panel (commander style) file manager.

Binaries are available for all three major platforms. The developers are looking for volunteers to help put together screenshots for visual changelogs.

Amarok 2.0 was released on 10 December 2008.

An alpha release of 1.1 (the KDE 4 port) is forthcoming, but not yet released.

The KDE4 port is under way but requires major rewriting to support Phonon and other new features. No releases scheduled at this time.

KPlayer 0.7 is the KDE4 port of KPlayer that was released on the same day as KDE 4.0. KPlayer 0.7.1 is planned for fall 2008 and will include a KDE4 port of its multimedia library which still used KDE3 compatibility layer in version 0.7.0.

  • Basket (1.0.3.1 (KDE3) - Released June 30 2008)

The KDE4 port of Basket is currently in a pre-alpha state.

The KDE4 port will not be released to sometime after version 1.1, which will be the last KDE3 release.

  • There are also several KDE games that do not have a KDE 4 port yet. Among these are kasteroids, kfouleggs.

An alpha release of 4.0 (a rewritten from scratch version) is forthcoming, but not yet released. Normal users should continue to use the stable KDevelop 3.5.2 version for the time being.