< Projects | NepomukRevision as of 08:47, 16 July 2012 by Vhanda (talk | contribs) (→Metadata writeback)(diff) ← Older revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff) Contents 1 Nepomuk BOF 1.1 Topics Discussed 1.1.1 PIM Feeders 1.1.2 Dolphin 1.1.3 User Visibility 1.1.4 Technical Documentation 1.1.5 Old Data cleaner + Migrator 1.1.6 Metadata writeback 1.1.7 Nepomuk should be hidden 1.1.8 User visible query language 1.1.9 Globalized WebExtrator 1.2 Final Notes Nepomuk BOF This is the summary of the BOF that took place on 4th July 2012 during Akademy 2012. The title of the BOF was "Constructive Criticism: Prioritizing Nepomuk development". Some of the notably attendees were - Vishesh Handa (Nepomuk - host) Martin Klapetek (Telepathy) David Edmenson (Telepathy) Martin Graesslin (KWin) Alex Fiestas (Solid) Marco Martin (Plamsa) Christian Mollekopf (PIM) ( Please add your self to the list, if I have missed your name ) Topics Discussed PIM Feeders The feeders regularly cause the entire system to consume massive amount of CPU. Suggested improvements - Throttle the indexing code Schedule it during low cpu consumption storeResources is quite slow - optimize it For better detection of 'low cpu consumption' and when exactly the feeders should be run, it was discussed that solid should provide some simple signals which inform clients who are interested in running cpu intensive tasks. This should probably be combined with `KIdleTime` Another thing that was discussed was the feeling of control. The indexing is not controllable and happens in the background. There should be way for users to pause/resume the indexing. Maybe even ask for re-indexing? Dolphin Dolphin is arguably the most user visible application that uses Nepomuk. It has decent Nepomuk integration, but needs a lot of polishing up - Only list files On-demand loading - For results > 1000 (random number), do not load all the results. Just load a small subset, and when/if the user scrolls more, then load them. This seems like a nice idea, but it is going to be really hard to implement. Mainly cause of the nature of the kioslaves. Any suggestions on how to go about this are welcome. Improve searching user interface The user shouldn't have to choose between filename and contents. It should automatically prioritize the result. Or maybe it would be nice to allow a user to search both via the filename + content. Needs more discussion. Provide a clear indication when it is using Nepomuk, and when it is performing a manual search. User Visibility Kickoff integration QML Widget? Crystal? Technical Documentation Most of the technical documentation is extremely outdated. It's no surprise that developers are scared of Nepomuk. Additionally, not everyone understand the ontologies and we cannot expect application developers to understand how to write their own ontologies. Example - The Solid developers would love to be able to associate BlueTooth accounts with people and the files received. Same is the case with Telepathy File Transfer. Old Data cleaner + Migrator There is a lot of invalid and old data lying in Nepomuk. They should be some special application to remove and port that invalid data. It should typically be done in another application cause that way the user can decide when to run it, and they'll understand if it is consuming a lot of system resources. Something along the lines of - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293323 Metadata writeback Should be shipped. Gives the user a better sense of security. This could even be extended by using file system attributes. There was GSOC 2011 project called Metadata Writeback, but most of it is still lying in a branch in kde-runtime. It needs to be moved to nepomuk-core, and ported to Nepomuk2. From what I remember, it only supported ID3 tags and Akonadi writeback. Nepomuk should be hidden Nepomuk isn't a client side application. The users do not need to know about its existence. We have gone quite far accomplishing this, but there is a lot more places where this could be improved. Example: One prime application is called "Nepomuk Controller" User visible query language The query language is for power users and is not publicly documented. Additionally, the code is also fairly messy and difficult to modify. There was a gsoc idea for fixing this, but we never got decent students. Globalized WebExtrator Applications want the ability to fetch extra metadata about their resources. Instead of each application doing this themselves, we should provide some convenient API for applications to use. Probably a plugin based system along with it. Prime use case: Plasma Media Center There was a GSOC 2010 Project - Web-Extractor. But the gsoc resulted in this huge mess of over-engineered code. It would be a lot simpler to just start from scratch. The API is the only part that needs some discussion, the rest should be pretty straightforward. Final Notes If I've missed some important detail, please add it. We can review this in about a month, and see what progress has been made. Retrieved from "https://community.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Nepomuk/Akademy_2012_BOF&oldid=22774" Content is available under Creative Commons License SA 4.0 unless otherwise noted.