< KDE PIM | MeetingsRevision as of 10:24, 17 January 2010 by ThorstenStaerk (talk | contribs) (show parent topic)(diff) ← Older revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff) The annual KDE PIM Meeting Osnabrück 8 took place at the Intevation offices in Osnabrück from Friday, January 8th 2010, to Sunday, January 10th. Contents 1 Location / Travel Information 1.1 Office 1.2 Hotel 2 Participants 3 Topics 4 Agenda 4.1 Friday 4.2 Saturday 4.3 Sunday 5 Meeting Minutes 5.1 Kolab Konsortium projects 5.1.1 2008: Enterprise4 5.1.2 2009: Prototype Enterprise5 5.1.3 2010: Komo3 -> Enterprise 5 5.2 Release Plans 5.2.1 KDE SC 4.4 5.2.2 KDE SC 4.5 5.2.3 Beyond KDE SC 4.5 5.3 Marketing Meeting 5.3.1 Brainstorming 5.3.2 Targeted Audience 5.4 cDash meeting 5.5 Summer of Code brainstorming 6 BOFs 6.1 qtcreator bof 7 Meeting notes 8 Blogs 9 Photos 10 Press Location / Travel Information Office Intevation Neuer Graben 17 49074 Osnabrück Germany Phone: +49-541/335083-0 Arrival: see http://www.intevation.de/travel.en.html Hotel Dom-Hotel Osnabrück Kleine Domsfreiheit 5 49074 Osnabrück Germany Phone: (+49)541/35835-0 Fax : (+49)541/35835-35 http://www.dom-hotel-osnabrueck.de Rooms booked on 2010-01-05 (by emanuel). 11 single rooms 1 double rooms 1 parking Participants Non-locals, please add your travel details and accomodation needs (Do you want to share a double room with somebody?) to the following table. 15 participants (2010-01-05): Name Arrival Departure Accommodation needed Ingo Klöcker Friday afternoon Sunday evening yes (sharing a room is ok) Tom Albers Friday afternoon Sunday evening single room, car parking Volker Krause Friday, 11:51, by train Sunday, 16:08, by train single room Thorsten Staerk Friday afternoon Sunday evening single room, no car David Jarvie Friday, 18:06, by train Sunday, 13:53, by train yes Stephen Kelly Friday, 11:51, by train Sunday, 16:08, by train yes Sebastian Trueg Friday, afternoon Saturday, evening yes Bertjan Broeksema Friday, 11:51, by train Sunday, 16:08, by train yes Patrick Ohly Friday, evening Sunday, afternoon yes Tobias Koenig Friday, early afternoon Sunday, afternoon yes (sharing a room is ok) Kevin Krammer Friday afternoon Sunday afternoon yes (sharing a room is ok) Cornelius Schumacher Friday early afternoon Sunday afternoon yes Thomas McGuire Friday noon Sunday afternoon yes Paul Adams Tuesday, 5 Jan Wednesday, 13 Jan No thanks Georg Greve Tuesday, 5 Jan Some time No thanks Bernhard Reiter (resident) Björn Ricks (resident) Topics Nepomuk integration Review the current feeder agents, Sebastian had some ideas on how to improve them Review search queries used by KMail, esp. full text search does not yet cover everything I think Look into recording usage data (think recently used addresses++) Kontact and Kolab Groupware update KDEPIM on mobile devices like Maemo5/6, Symbian or Windows-Mobile. The future of PIM/groupware regarding privacy and data syncing. (see the last section of http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windows/2009-November/004359.html) KDEPIM on Windows. Thorsten wants to change back ktimetracker from a kontact part to a standalone-application. What experiences have others made? SyncML support, both as client and server, and how SyncEvolution could be integration into KDE for that sync support beyond SyncML PIM data conversion (Evolution vCard dialect vs. KDE vs. ...) Discuss merging of the akoandi-ports branch KMail data/config migration to Akonadi Identifying other critical parts for 4.5 What do we do with bugs/wishes of the pre-Akonadi apps? Making (more) use of CDash my.cdash.org fix our unit tests integration into our workflow (eg. subscribing kde-pim to build errors?) Planning the 4.5 development cycle depend on kdelibs trunk or 4.4? as much discussions, reviews, and presentations as possible Parenting of Akonadi::Items http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/26669 Potentially implementable generically Lots of issues related to multiple possible parents for emails for example. The agent can not just pick one item as the parent if you get duplicate mails for example. Brainstorming for Summer of Code ideas Agenda Details to be decided Friday Arrival and start to meet and work 19:00 Dinner in restaurant "Rampendahl", Hasestraße 35 Saturday 08:00 Breakfast 09:00 Meet and work 10:00 #qtcreator_bof 11:00 Kolab Konsortium projects for this year (Bernhard) 12:30 Lunch 14:00 Group photo 14:10 Syncing (Patrick) 16:00 Planning for 4.5 / 4.6 18:00 KDE PIM Marketing 19:00 Dinner in restaurant "Planeta Sol" (Brazilian), Bergstraße 8 (VHS building) Sunday 08:00 Breakfast 09:00 Begin 10:00 CDash 10:45 GSoC brainstorming 12:30 Lunch Meeting Minutes Kolab Konsortium projects 2008: Enterprise4 Port of Kontact to KDE 4 running on Linux, Mac OS X (Beta), Windows (Beta); here Beta refers to readiness for production use in enterprises the latest release was in December 2009 Kontact for Windows can be downloaded at http://wiki.kolab.org/index.php/Client_windows_kontact 2009: Prototype Enterprise5 Development of a prototype of Kontact based on Akonadi Funding for the development of the final product has not yet been secured 2010: Komo3 -> Enterprise 5 Development/Port of Kontact (Enterprise5 version) to N900 (prototype) and a Windows Mobile 6.5 device (production quality), the device is not yet fixed, maybe an htc touch pro2. More than 80% of the code is expected to be ths same for all five platforms. Release Plans KDE SC 4.4 in deep freeze KAddressBook based on Akonadi and Nepomuk KDE SC 4.5 will probably be released in August 2010; feature freeze will be in April or May Goal: KMail, KOrganizer, KJots and probably also Akregator based on Akonadi and Nepomuk Akonadi-ports branch will be merged to trunk very soon (next week); most serious open issue: migration of old mail storage; combined maildir/mbox resource (aka KMail legacy resource) is needed some important user visible changes that the Akonadi-port of KMail will bring: Working virtual folders (aka search folders) IMAP IDLE support Caching policies for IMAP (and probably other online resources) On Akonadi meeting before the freeze we will decide if Kontact is ready for release with KDE SC 4.5 kdepim will have to compile and work with kdelibs 4.4 Git move: need to get involved Beyond KDE SC 4.5 Enterprise-ready Kontact Explore new UI concepts for Kontact enabled by Akonadi/Nepomuk (for non-enterprise users) Marketing Meeting Brainstorming How to improve KDE Marketing blogging more microblogging youtube videos wiki page explaining this (Thorsten) technorati tagging reach outside the KDE community write articles in magazines good t-shirts talk to people at conferences talk at Cebit organize KDE PIM conferences invite people to release events KDE beer (subclass of open source beer) cute mascot /usr groups eat your own dogfoot campaign inside of KDE KDE PIM slogan email cool things to multiplicators release songs KDE PIM Planet (Tom) facebook group linkedin group own release announcement calendar (Akonadi resource) up-to-date sexy website people of KDE PIM SUSE Studio build of PIM apps (Tom) demo data finishing, publishing, promoting Windows installer hire marketing company download links for all platforms search Engine optimization usability studies and doing something about it "renaissance" for KDE PIM invite supporting members to talk about PIM bring partners/journalists to meetings contact open-source professor talk to students, go to universities promote fun job security lobbyism KDE PIM commit digest (Paul) Bank of KDE Make demo CDs NX demo server public Kolab server status reports feature guide (Tobias) KDE forum welcome dude (Tom) readme.packager (Tobias) Targeted Audience General public Potential new developers KDE community Existing KDE users cDash meeting See http://my.cdash.org , http://saegewerk.wald.intevation.org/ and http://treepkg.wald.intevation.org/. Summer of Code brainstorming More resources, including VM images for testing OpenChange OpenDesktop Scalix GroupDav/CalDav New reminder daemon with more bling SyncEvolution integration WebKit port of KMail's composer Grantlee port of the message viewer Plasma port of the Kontact summary Semantic analysis of notes with Scribo Python client library for Akonadi Social networking concept/component for PIM General Kontact (the shell) improvements Unified system tray icon New concept for unified config dialog ... Zeitgeist for Kontact Other cool Nepomuk-related enhancements for Kontact Person-centric PIM view Including transport-independent communication Project-centric PIM view New logging framework for KDE + UI for that 3D E-Mail/Thread viewer BOFs qtcreator bof How to participate People who want to participate in this BOF contact Thorsten via chat. Goal We want to learn tricks how to use our time most effectively with Qt Creator. We want to learn and document how we best move existing KDE programs towards Qt Creator. As an example, if you do not have a .ui file for your UI, you will not be as effective as you could be with Qt Creator. Topics What about KDevelop and Eclipse? How to create a new project with qtcreator How to import an existing project (kdepim) into qtcreator Meeting notes Reparenting of items will continue in the same vein as currently. Details on the mailing list. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/26669 Blogs Thorsten's view Photos Photos of meeting and flipchart (by Bernhard) Press Linux Magazin (german only) Retrieved from "https://community.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE_PIM/Meetings/Osnabrueck_8&oldid=957" Content is available under Creative Commons License SA 4.0 unless otherwise noted.