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The annual KDE PIM Meeting Osnabrück 8 took place at the Intevation offices in Osnabrück from Friday, January 8th 2010, to Sunday, January 10th.

Location / Travel Information

Office

Intevation
Neuer Graben 17
49074 Osnabrück
Germany
Phone: +49-541/335083-0

Arrival: see http://www.intevation.de/travel.en.html

Hotel

Dom-Hotel Osnabrück
Kleine Domsfreiheit 5
49074 Osnabrück
Germany
Phone: (+49)541/35835-0 
Fax : (+49)541/35835-35

http://www.dom-hotel-osnabrueck.de

Rooms booked on 2010-01-05 (by emanuel).

11 single rooms
1 double rooms
1 parking

Participants

Non-locals, please add your travel details and accomodation needs (Do you want to share a double room with somebody?) to the following table.

15 participants (2010-01-05):

Name	Arrival	Departure	Accommodation needed
Ingo Klöcker	Friday afternoon	Sunday evening	yes (sharing a room is ok)
Tom Albers	Friday afternoon	Sunday evening	single room, car parking
Volker Krause	Friday, 11:51, by train	Sunday, 16:08, by train	single room
Thorsten Staerk	Friday afternoon	Sunday evening	single room, no car
David Jarvie	Friday, 18:06, by train	Sunday, 13:53, by train	yes
Stephen Kelly	Friday, 11:51, by train	Sunday, 16:08, by train	yes
Sebastian Trueg	Friday, afternoon	Saturday, evening	yes
Bertjan Broeksema	Friday, 11:51, by train	Sunday, 16:08, by train	yes
Patrick Ohly	Friday, evening	Sunday, afternoon	yes
Tobias Koenig	Friday, early afternoon	Sunday, afternoon	yes (sharing a room is ok)
Kevin Krammer	Friday afternoon	Sunday afternoon	yes (sharing a room is ok)
Cornelius Schumacher	Friday early afternoon	Sunday afternoon	yes
Thomas McGuire	Friday noon	Sunday afternoon	yes
Paul Adams	Tuesday, 5 Jan	Wednesday, 13 Jan	No thanks
Georg Greve	Tuesday, 5 Jan	Some time	No thanks
Bernhard Reiter			(resident)
Björn Ricks			(resident)

Topics

Nepomuk integration
- Review the current feeder agents, Sebastian had some ideas on how to improve them
- Review search queries used by KMail, esp. full text search does not yet cover everything I think
- Look into recording usage data (think recently used addresses++)
Kontact and Kolab Groupware update
KDEPIM on mobile devices like Maemo5/6, Symbian or Windows-Mobile.
The future of PIM/groupware regarding privacy and data syncing. (see the last section of http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windows/2009-November/004359.html)
KDEPIM on Windows.
Thorsten wants to change back ktimetracker from a kontact part to a standalone-application. What experiences have others made?
SyncML support, both as client and server, and how SyncEvolution could be integration into KDE for that
sync support beyond SyncML
PIM data conversion (Evolution vCard dialect vs. KDE vs. ...)
Discuss merging of the akoandi-ports branch
- KMail data/config migration to Akonadi
- Identifying other critical parts for 4.5
- What do we do with bugs/wishes of the pre-Akonadi apps?
Making (more) use of CDash
- my.cdash.org
- fix our unit tests
- integration into our workflow (eg. subscribing kde-pim to build errors?)
Planning the 4.5 development cycle
- depend on kdelibs trunk or 4.4?
as much discussions, reviews, and presentations as possible
Parenting of Akonadi::Items
- http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/26669
- Potentially implementable generically
- Lots of issues related to multiple possible parents for emails for example.
  - The agent can not just pick one item as the parent if you get duplicate mails for example.
Brainstorming for Summer of Code ideas

Agenda

Details to be decided

Friday

Arrival and start to meet and work

19:00 Dinner in restaurant "Rampendahl", Hasestraße 35

Saturday

08:00 Breakfast

09:00 Meet and work

10:00 #qtcreator_bof

11:00 Kolab Konsortium projects for this year (Bernhard)

12:30 Lunch

14:00 Group photo

14:10 Syncing (Patrick)

16:00 Planning for 4.5 / 4.6

18:00 KDE PIM Marketing

19:00 Dinner in restaurant "Planeta Sol" (Brazilian), Bergstraße 8 (VHS building)

Sunday

08:00 Breakfast

09:00 Begin

10:00 CDash

10:45 GSoC brainstorming

12:30 Lunch

Meeting Minutes

Kolab Konsortium projects

2008: Enterprise4

Port of Kontact to KDE 4 running on Linux, Mac OS X (Beta), Windows (Beta); here Beta refers to readiness for production use in enterprises
the latest release was in December 2009
Kontact for Windows can be downloaded at http://wiki.kolab.org/index.php/Client_windows_kontact

2009: Prototype Enterprise5

Development of a prototype of Kontact based on Akonadi
Funding for the development of the final product has not yet been secured

2010: Komo3 -> Enterprise 5

Development/Port of Kontact (Enterprise5 version) to N900 (prototype) and a Windows Mobile 6.5 device (production quality), the device is not yet fixed, maybe an htc touch pro2. More than 80% of the code is expected to be ths same for all five platforms.

Release Plans

KDE SC 4.4

in deep freeze
KAddressBook based on Akonadi and Nepomuk

KDE SC 4.5

will probably be released in August 2010; feature freeze will be in April or May
Goal: KMail, KOrganizer, KJots and probably also Akregator based on Akonadi and Nepomuk
Akonadi-ports branch will be merged to trunk very soon (next week); most serious open issue: migration of old mail storage; combined maildir/mbox resource (aka KMail legacy resource) is needed
some important user visible changes that the Akonadi-port of KMail will bring:
- Working virtual folders (aka search folders)
- IMAP IDLE support
- Caching policies for IMAP (and probably other online resources)
On Akonadi meeting before the freeze we will decide if Kontact is ready for release with KDE SC 4.5
kdepim will have to compile and work with kdelibs 4.4
Git move: need to get involved

Beyond KDE SC 4.5

Enterprise-ready Kontact
Explore new UI concepts for Kontact enabled by Akonadi/Nepomuk (for non-enterprise users)

Marketing Meeting

Brainstorming

How to improve KDE Marketing

blogging more
microblogging
youtube videos
- wiki page explaining this (Thorsten)
technorati tagging
reach outside the KDE community
write articles in magazines
good t-shirts
talk to people at conferences
talk at Cebit
organize KDE PIM conferences
invite people to release events
KDE beer (subclass of open source beer)
cute mascot
/usr groups
eat your own dogfoot campaign inside of KDE
KDE PIM slogan
email cool things to multiplicators
release songs
KDE PIM Planet (Tom)
facebook group
linkedin group
own release announcement
calendar (Akonadi resource)
up-to-date sexy website
people of KDE PIM
SUSE Studio build of PIM apps (Tom)
demo data
finishing, publishing, promoting Windows installer
hire marketing company
download links for all platforms
search Engine optimization
usability studies and doing something about it
"renaissance" for KDE PIM
invite supporting members to talk about PIM
bring partners/journalists to meetings
contact open-source professor
talk to students, go to universities
promote fun job security
lobbyism
KDE PIM commit digest (Paul)
Bank of KDE
Make demo CDs
NX demo server
public Kolab server
status reports
feature guide (Tobias)
KDE forum
welcome dude (Tom)
readme.packager (Tobias)

Targeted Audience

General public
Potential new developers
KDE community
Existing KDE users

cDash meeting

See http://my.cdash.org , http://saegewerk.wald.intevation.org/ and http://treepkg.wald.intevation.org/.

Summer of Code brainstorming

More resources, including VM images for testing

OpenChange
OpenDesktop
Scalix
GroupDav/CalDav

New reminder daemon with more bling
SyncEvolution integration
WebKit port of KMail's composer
Grantlee port of the message viewer
Plasma port of the Kontact summary
Semantic analysis of notes with Scribo
Python client library for Akonadi
Social networking concept/component for PIM
General Kontact (the shell) improvements

Unified system tray icon
New concept for unified config dialog
...

Zeitgeist for Kontact
Other cool Nepomuk-related enhancements for Kontact
Person-centric PIM view

Including transport-independent communication

Project-centric PIM view
New logging framework for KDE + UI for that
3D E-Mail/Thread viewer

BOFs

qtcreator bof

How to participate: People who want to participate in this BOF contact Thorsten via chat.

Goal: We want to learn tricks how to use our time most effectively with Qt Creator. We want to learn and document how we best move existing KDE programs towards Qt Creator. As an example, if you do not have a .ui file for your UI, you will not be as effective as you could be with Qt Creator.

Topics

What about KDevelop and Eclipse?
How to create a new project with qtcreator
How to import an existing project (kdepim) into qtcreator

Meeting notes

Reparenting of items will continue in the same vein as currently. Details on the mailing list. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/26669