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(From the Plasma 6 meeting today, lack of real session restore is no longer considered a showstopper. We will make a fake one which will be probably as good or better than the X11 feature)
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This page tracks the Wayland showstoppers throughout the stack. Showstoppers are major bugs, or missing features affecting the Wayland session but not the X11 session. This is part of KDE's [[Goals/Wayland|Wayland goal]].
This page tracks the "Errata/Known issues" that are specific to the the Plasma Wayland session: significant quality-of-life annoyances, significant problems with workarounds, etc. This is part of KDE's [[Goals/Wayland|Wayland goal]].


== True Showstoppers==
It is the Wayland-specific companion to [[Plasma/X11 Known Significant Issues]].
These are the issues that must be fixed before we can recommend Wayland by default.


=== Session management ===
* Applications don't prompt to save unsaved work, causing data loss: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461176


=== KWin/compositing/window management ===
== KWin/compositing/window management ==
* Not all Sticky Keys options work: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444335
* Worse performance on external monitor connected to NVIDIA GPU when default GPU is Intel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452219
* Bounce Keys do not work: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474752
* Native Wayland windows cannot save and restore their window positions; KWin would need to do it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
* "Spare Layouts" feature not implemented: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455431
* Using key combination shortcuts to type phrases into windows is not yet implemented: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478219


== Non-showstoppers ==
== Accessibility ==
This is effectively an "Errata/Known issues" list: quality-of-life annoyances, problems with workarounds, etc. Don't expect all or even any of these to be fixed before we go wayland-by-default.
* Can't move pointer with numpad keys: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478620
* Slow Keys feature doesn't work: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490826
* Only Maliit is supported, which is not a proper accessibility-oriented virtual keyboard (e.g. no modifier keys or arrow keys)


=== Session management ===
== Graphics Tablet Support ==
* No session restore for native Wayland windows: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436318. Our session management recovery engine is based on the [https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/doc/libSM/xsmp.html X Session Management Protocol] and there is apparently currently no generic concept to do it on Wayland. But on Qt it's plugin-able and [https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SessionManagement/GnomeSession GNOME has had their own implementation] for some time.
* Can't switch between absolute and relative modes for the graphic tablet. [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898 Bug report] and Pending Merge Requests [https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4852 1] and [https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1963 2].
* Session-restored XWayland windows go on the wrong screens and virtual desktops: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468252 + https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421870
* Can't create multiple profiles for tablet configurations so artists can choose different profiles (e.g. different shortcuts and pen pressure) for different workflows like inking a comic or doing vector art: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671
* Can't map a portion of the tablet area to the screen. Some people have large tablet and sometime they want to map a portion of the tablet to the monitor: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457703.
* The UI for mapping tablet area and its buttons has a few issues compared to the UI in the X11 KCM: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477750
* Graphic tablets may have a touch strip or ring, but in the Wayland KCM, you can't assign shortcuts to touch rings. Bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752
* Some tablets allow users to switch between touch ring modes. For example, you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcuts, like changing hue or zooming in and out. This is not possible on Plasma Wayland: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787


=== KWin/compositing/window management ===
== Upstream ==
* When the compositor crashes or restarts, non-Qt apps are killed — Qt apps do stay alive, and work is ongoing to make other apps survive as well; see see https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Restarting
 
* Worse performance on weak Intel iGPUs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452119
=== Waiting on new Wayland protocol ===
* Cursor theme/size changes do not take effect for Qt5 and XWayland software until session is restarted: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420859
* No session restore for native Wayland windows: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436318 / https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/issues/113. Our session management recovery engine is based on the [https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/doc/libSM/xsmp.html X Session Management Protocol] and there is apparently currently no generic concept to do it on Wayland. But on Qt it's plugin-able and [https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SessionManagement/GnomeSession GNOME has had their own implementation] for some time. Possible workaround: Use Hibernation (Suspend To Disk) instead.
* Picture-in-Picture windows from web browsers get a Task Manager icon and do not stay on top: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463288; requires https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/132 and adoption in apps using PiP windows (like web browsers)
* Picture-in-Picture windows from web browsers get a Task Manager icon and do not stay on top: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463288; requires https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/132 and adoption in apps using PiP windows (like web browsers)
* Windows marked "Keep above other windows" also go above Plasma menus, Panels, and popups: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476080 & https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462181
* Calibration/Profiling tools like DisplayCAL and argyllcms are used with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristimulus_colorimeter colorimeters] to ensure monitors are displaying color accurately. A portal (which has not been proposed yet) is required for these tools to be able to calibrate the monitor on Wayland and hand the ICC profile over to the compositor as discussed [https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/14#note_2125072 here]. Relevant DisplayCAL issue here: https://github.com/eoyilmaz/displaycal-py3/issues/133
* Quick tile actions and window rules cannot override window's minimum size if needed as on X11: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434615
* Global Menu is not supported for non-Qt apps: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424485. Needed wayland protocol: see https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/52
* Windows that were closed when maximized and do not record their own maximized state will re-open in the maximized position, but not the maximized state: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=437089
* Previewing Window Switchers doesn't clean them up afterwards: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374971
* Dialog Parent effect isn't working: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460819
* Maximized XWayland windows have pixel gaps between screen edges when using a fractional scale factor: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459373
* Limited color management support: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439135, https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/issues/11; requires https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/14 and adoption in KWin
* When dragging files, to trigger a specific result, you have to hold down a modifier key *before* you start dragging, not after: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423031


=== Plasma ===
=== Not yet started ===
* XWayland applications may not autostart properly in a Wayland session due to various important environment variables not being set: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469839
* With screen scaling, cursor size is incorrect when hovering over native Wayland apps written with the GTK toolkit due to its lack of support for the cursor-shape-v1 protocol: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451158. See also https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459161 for general cursor size issues.
* XEmbedSNIProxy window eats input in top-left pixel of the screen: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433079
* Global Menu is not supported for non-Qt apps: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424485
* When dragging images from Firefox to the desktop, have to hold the drag 1 or more seconds over the desktop before releasing or else the desktop drop menu does not appear: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448867
* Installed Chrome apps are grouped together with Chrome windows in Icon-Only Task Manager: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358277
* When using a Chromium-based browser in native Wayland mode, dragging an image to the desktop creates a sticky note out of it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449645
* Wrong app icon in Task Switcher for LibreOffice apps: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-77182
* Mirroring/"replica of" feature missing from KScreen KCM: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460433 - workaround: drag a screen on top of another to mirror them


=== NVIDIA ===
=== Work in progress ===
* Transient graphical glitches after waking from sleep: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448866
* When the compositor crashes or restarts, non-Qt apps are killed — Qt apps do stay alive, and work is ongoing to make other apps survive as well; see see https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Restarting
* Transient graphical glitches after changing themes: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470503
* Unusably poor performance on external screens with NVIDIA Optimus setup: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452219. The source of the problem is the Nvidia driver (https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2188#note_796323), and we have a workaround that can be implemented if it's not fixed on the driver side by the time that Plasma 6.0 releases
 
=== Upstream, not fixed yet ===
* KWin doesn't differentiate numberpad shortcuts from above-the-letters shortcuts: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413310 / https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-94892
 
== Fixed upstream in Qt 6 ==
These are fixed in Qt 6 but neither backportable nor backported to Qt 5.


* plasmashell crashes when hovering or clicking items on the Panel due to "zwp_linux_buffer_params_v1.add" protocol error: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447717; fixed in Qt 6.3
=== Fixed in an upcoming version ===
* Wrong positioning of context menu in multiple screens: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436016 / https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-85297; fixed in Qt 6.4
* Can't fine tune pressure curve of the tablet. Various people draw with varying pressure; some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch. Configuring pressure curve helps artists to get better lines. [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705 Bug report] and [https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1972 Merge Request]. - Implemented in Plasma 6.3.0
* When using a fractional scale factor, native Wayland apps are slightly blurry: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446674; fixed in Qt 6.6
* Graphics programs that require color accuracy in professional settings such as Krita, GIMP, Scribus, Darktable, Blender, DaVinci Resolve, etc. cannot guarantee accuracy, especially when moving between color spaces like sRGB and CMYK (from digital to print) or Rec. 709 (broadcast TV) until the Color Management and HDR protocol is merged and compositors like KWin implement support for it: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/14 - Implemented in Plasma 6.3.0 with KWin including support for the draft protocol. Apps can start implementing support too since the protocol is unlikely to change, and all that's left to get it completed is some XDG bureaucracy.
* Changing scale causes Qt-based software to become blurry until restarted: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-78327; fixed in Qt 6.6
* When using a Chromium-based browser in native Wayland mode, dragging an image to the desktop creates a sticky note out of it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449645 / https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtwayland/+/518017 (Fixed in Qt 6.6) + https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtwayland/+/518018 (Fixed in Qt 6.8.2)
* Apps using QDesktopServices::openUrl()/Qt.openUrlExternally don't raise existing windows in the activated app: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtwayland/+/321246 and https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/447556; fixed in Qt 6.5
* QtQuick windows exhibit jittery resizing: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477900 - https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtwayland/+/591892 - Fixed in Qt 6.9.0
* QMenus appear as standalone windows when opened using a stylus: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-111130; fixed in Qt 6.6 - https://github.com/qt/qtwayland/commit/59fae923d72eaf640035237ae6ddb1ccfeba2210
* After dragging-and-dropping a Favorites app in Kickoff, next click anywhere launches that thing: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444489 - Fixed in Qt 6.5
* When the compositor crashes or restarts, Qt apps are killed - Fixed in Qt 6.6
* In multi-monitor setups with at least one scaled display, Context menus have items which are invisible until hovered: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-93380 - Fixed in Qt 6.6
* When logging into a Wayland session after having previously used the X11 session, all outputs have their scales reset to 100%: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433460
* Context menu text becomes is blurry until interacted with on scaled displays in multi-display setups: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451259
* Some Plasma icons are blurry until interacted with mixed-dpi multi-screen setup: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460493
* QDockWidget does not visually move when moving and is not re-dockable when detached: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-87332 - fixed in Qt 6.6
* Plasma and apps crash when dragging anything into another app: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470925 - fixed in Qt 6.6

Latest revision as of 15:26, 18 December 2024

This page tracks the "Errata/Known issues" that are specific to the the Plasma Wayland session: significant quality-of-life annoyances, significant problems with workarounds, etc. This is part of KDE's Wayland goal.

It is the Wayland-specific companion to Plasma/X11 Known Significant Issues.


KWin/compositing/window management

Accessibility

Graphics Tablet Support

  • Can't switch between absolute and relative modes for the graphic tablet. Bug report and Pending Merge Requests 1 and 2.
  • Can't create multiple profiles for tablet configurations so artists can choose different profiles (e.g. different shortcuts and pen pressure) for different workflows like inking a comic or doing vector art: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671
  • Can't map a portion of the tablet area to the screen. Some people have large tablet and sometime they want to map a portion of the tablet to the monitor: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457703.
  • The UI for mapping tablet area and its buttons has a few issues compared to the UI in the X11 KCM: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477750
  • Graphic tablets may have a touch strip or ring, but in the Wayland KCM, you can't assign shortcuts to touch rings. Bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752
  • Some tablets allow users to switch between touch ring modes. For example, you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcuts, like changing hue or zooming in and out. This is not possible on Plasma Wayland: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787

Upstream

Waiting on new Wayland protocol

Not yet started

Work in progress

Fixed in an upcoming version